Agriculture Industry Agriculture Industry    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Are mobile phones wiping out our bees? Goto page 1, 2  Next          Agriculture Industry Forum Index -> Bee Keeping View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Nozza Guest Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 2:19 pm    Post subject: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees? Are mobile phones wiping out our bees? Scientists claim radiation from handsets are to blame for mysterious 'colony collapse' of bees See http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/wildlife/article2449968.ece Noz -- Email (ROT13) abmmn_jnyrf4@lnubb.pb.hx Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Guest Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:36 am    Post subject: Re: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees? In article <fuu32350d3pn531q576th1ujaikf8ovf6p@4ax.com>, Nozza <nozza_again_gns@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Quote: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees? No Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Gregor Guest Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:14 am    Post subject: Re: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees? On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 11:19:22 +0100, Nozza <nozza_again_gns@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Quote: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees? Scientists claim radiation from handsets are to blame for mysterious 'colony collapse' of bees See http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/wildlife/article2449968.ece Noz Yes. Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Chase Guest Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:48 am    Post subject: Re: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees? On Apr 15, 4:19 am, Nozza <nozza_again_...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Quote: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees? Scientists claim radiation from handsets are to blame for mysterious 'colony collapse' of bees See http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/wildlife/article2449968.ece See http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/22/news/wireless23.php Pitifully irresponsible reporting. -Chase Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Guest Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:04 am    Post subject: Re: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees? In article <1177541317.739241.263460@n35g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, Chase <chase.carlton@gmail.com> wrote: Quote: Pitifully irresponsible reporting. Indeed. Then there's this: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/04/070426100117.htm -- http://yosemitephotos.net/ Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor D. anon Guest Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 10:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees? "Nozza" <nozza_again_gns@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:fuu32350d3pn531q576th1ujaikf8ovf6p@4ax.com... Quote: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees? Probably a contributing factor. Talking on a mobile while driving is dangerous; it's downright suicidal to do it while flying. D Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Guest Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 3:16 am    Post subject: Re: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees? In article <VLMYh.1714$tp5.1283@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net>, D. anon <anonymous@no.where> wrote: Quote: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees? Probably a contributing factor. Very unlikely and so far I've seen zero evidence that cell phones have anything to do with CCD. Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor D. anon Guest Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:12 am    Post subject: Re: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees? <ellis@no.spam> wrote in message news:1177802166.483206@no.spam... Quote: In article <VLMYh.1714$tp5.1283@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net>, D. anon <anonymous@no.where> wrote: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees? Probably a contributing factor. Very unlikely... I suppose you're right. Phones have been getting a lot smaller, but not THAT small. Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor AL Guest Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:28 am    Post subject: Re: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees? D. anon wrote: Quote: ellis@no.spam> wrote in message news:1177802166.483206@no.spam... In article <VLMYh.1714$tp5.1283@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net>, D. anon <anonymous@no.where> wrote: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees? Probably a contributing factor. Very unlikely... I suppose you're right. Phones have been getting a lot smaller, but not THAT small. With a little effort you might discover the suspected agent is a form of nosema. AL Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Caruthers Carstairs-MacKr Guest Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:05 am    Post subject: Re: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees? On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:28:13 -0600, AL wrote: Quote: D. anon wrote: ellis@no.spam> wrote in message news:1177802166.483206@no.spam... In article <VLMYh.1714$tp5.1283@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net>, D. anon <anonymous@no.where> wrote: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees? Probably a contributing factor. Very unlikely... I suppose you're right. Phones have been getting a lot smaller, but not THAT small. With a little effort you might discover the suspected agent is a form of nosema. AL ............one of the suspected agents! Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Charlie Kroeger Guest Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 11:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees? ellis@no.spam wrote: Quote: Very unlikely and so far I've seen zero evidence that cell phones have anything to do with CCD. But in the article cited by Nozza's thread i.e. from the Independent there's this: "Now a limited study at Landau University has found that bees refuse to return to their hives when mobile phones are placed nearby. Dr Jochen Kuhn, who carried it out, said this could provide a "hint" to a possible cause." My take on the above is that if the microwave radiation from cell phones is causing bees to loose their way now and not before is because the number of cell phone towers, that are ever increasing, have in these areas of massive bee losses, reached a concentration where the ambient level of microwave radiation has equaled or exceeded the amounts in the Landau University experiment. Maybe the next (official, blue ribbon, high level et.al.)study should plot cell phone tower locations against those apiaries that have sustained heavy loses. -- C.K. ref. NOZZA's thread: http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/wildlife/article2449968.ece There's other things of interest there too: Evidence of dangers to people from mobile phones is increasing. But proof is still lacking, largely because many of the biggest perils, such as cancer, take decades to show up. Most research on cancer has so far proved inconclusive. But an official Finnish study found that people who used the phones for more than 10 years were 40 per cent more likely to get a brain tumour on the same side as they held the handset. Swedish research revealed that radiation from mobile phones killed off brain cells, suggesting that today's teenagers could go senile in the prime of their lives. Professor Sir William Stewart, who has headed two (British) official inquiries, warned that children under eight should not use mobiles and made a series of safety recommendations, largely ignored by ministers. Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Guest Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 3:17 am    Post subject: Re: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees? In article <5b6d98F2r2f4gU1@mid.individual.net>, Charlie Kroeger <ckrogrr@frankensteinface.com> wrote: Quote: "Now a limited study at Landau University has found that bees refuse to return to their hives when mobile phones are placed nearby. Dr Jochen Kuhn, who carried it out, said this could provide a "hint" to a possible cause." Do many people leave their phones at a hive? Quote: My take on the above is that if the microwave radiation from cell phones is causing bees to loose their way now and not before is because the number of cell phone towers, Pffpt! The problem would have shown up years ago. -- http://yosemitephotos.net/ Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Charlie Kroeger Guest Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 10:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees? ellis@no.spam wrote: Quote: Pffpt! The problem would have shown up years ago. Did you read that part about the brain tumors? -- C.K Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Guest Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 4:58 am    Post subject: Re: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees? In article <5bbisuF2rh6qaU2@mid.individual.net>, Charlie Kroeger <ckrogrr@frankensteinface.com> wrote: Quote: Did you read that part about the brain tumors? Yawn Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Charlie Kroeger Guest Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 9:00 am    Post subject: Re: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees? ellis@no.spam wrote: Quote: Yawn humm..well I see you're not concerned but there are still those out there who prefer to take precautions. The Aegis Corp. a defense contractor sells radiation blocking for wireless devices. Have a read of their take on the issue: http://www.goaegis.com/wireless_controversy.html I bet they're just trying to scare us into buying their wireless radiation shields. -- C.K. 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