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joe
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:52 am    Post subject: Disapearing bees mystery Reply with quote

I read an article in a magazine that claimed that the bee disappearance
happened before. It is coexistence with the heavy sunspot cycle we are
in. It claims that it messes up the tracking dance that leads bees to
the honey supply and they get lost.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:11 am    Post subject: Re: Disapearing bees mystery Reply with quote

AL wrote:
Quote:
joe wrote:
I read an article in a magazine that claimed that the bee
disappearance happened before. It is coexistence with the heavy
sunspot cycle we are in. It claims that it messes up the tracking
dance that leads bees to the honey supply and they get lost.


Can you recall what magazine & issue ran the article?

AL

Al:
I get a lot of mags, Money, Computer Mags, Pop Sci, Pop Mechanics,
Arp, Alabama Living, Futures, MotorHome, Wood, SciFi, and a few others.
I really dont remember except that it was about 3 days ago I read it and
I cant find the latest Pop Science mag. It might have been that one but
not one of their articles maby a letter to the editor or just a side
story. Ill keep looking.

Larry
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AL
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:24 am    Post subject: Re: Disapearing bees mystery Reply with quote

joe wrote:
Quote:
I read an article in a magazine that claimed that the bee disappearance
happened before. It is coexistence with the heavy sunspot cycle we are
in. It claims that it messes up the tracking dance that leads bees to
the honey supply and they get lost.


Can you recall what magazine & issue ran the article?

AL
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joe
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:33 am    Post subject: Re: Disapearing bees mystery Reply with quote

Al:
This may be one of the articles. Posted on Digg.
http://www.qj.net/Scientists-honeybee-killer-may-be-sunspots/pg/49/aid/88083

Scientists: honeybee killer may be sunspots
Posted Apr 01, 2007 at 06:27AM by Dia A. Listed in: Science Tags:
magnetic field, sunspots, pesticides

bees disappeared because of the sun? - Image 1 More than a month ago, we
covered a story about bees disappearing for a yet unknown reason. The
hypotheses presented on this mysterious disappearance of bees called
Colony Collapse Disorder, were the following: pesticides, mites, and/or
poor management of the bee farmers.

But in a study made by Barbara Shipman, mathematician and daughter of a
bee researcher, a different reason for the disappearance of bees was
given: sunspots. A sunspot is a region on the Sun's surface that is
marked by a lower temperature than its surroundings and intense magnetic
activity. Sunspots follow an estimated 11-year cycle, corresponding to
increases in solar activity.

Whatever have sunspots to do with honeybees? Shipman studied the complex
dance that honeybees do when signaling pollen sources to their colony.
As a mathematician, Shipman analyzed that this complex bee-dance is
influenced by things such as polarization of the light of the sun and
local variations of the earth's magnetic field.

Shipman's studies suggest that bees are sensitive to quantum-mechanical
effects such as magnetic fields and electromagnetic waves. In the bee
disappearance case, it may be no coincidence that the predicted next
solar maximum in 2010 could be the most intense ever. This view suggests
that because of the coming sunspot peak, the quantum field to which bees
may be sensitive could have been disturbed.

Let's put it this way: because of Shipman's views, scientists are
suggesting that the Colony Collapse Disorder may have been caused by
bees losing their navigation skills because of the disturbed magnetic
activity. They may have flown skyward, attempting to keep up with the
rapidly moving target of home in six dimensions. Or, hyperdimentsional
bee-eaters could have emerged from the sunspot, phasing the bees out of
existence on contact.

Sounds weird now, but someday maybe we'll understand it better. As
physicist David Hathaway puts it, "We don't know why this works. The
underlying physics is a mystery. But it does work."

Larry
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Mike Griggs
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Disapearing bees mystery Reply with quote

One would presume that solar activity, if it did disrupt bee flight and
dancing, would uniformly affect bees as the entire world is bathed in
this electromagnetic effect. Why are only some beekeepers being
affected?

mike

In article <13192i4nr64oa65@corp.supernews.com>, joe <joe@here.net>
wrote:

Quote:
Al:
This may be one of the articles. Posted on Digg.
http://www.qj.net/Scientists-honeybee-killer-may-be-sunspots/pg/49/aid/88083

Scientists: honeybee killer may be sunspots
Posted Apr 01, 2007 at 06:27AM by Dia A. Listed in: Science Tags:
magnetic field, sunspots, pesticides
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joe
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:19 am    Post subject: Re: Disapearing bees mystery Reply with quote

Mike Griggs wrote:
Quote:
One would presume that solar activity, if it did disrupt bee flight and
dancing, would uniformly affect bees as the entire world is bathed in
this electromagnetic effect. Why are only some beekeepers being
affected?

mike

In article <13192i4nr64oa65@corp.supernews.com>, joe <joe@here.net
wrote:

Al:
This may be one of the articles. Posted on Digg.
http://www.qj.net/Scientists-honeybee-killer-may-be-sunspots/pg/49/aid/88083

Scientists: honeybee killer may be sunspots
Posted Apr 01, 2007 at 06:27AM by Dia A. Listed in: Science Tags:
magnetic field, sunspots, pesticides

Not knowing if this is the true reason but an explanation could be the
magnetic fields at some locations or the locations of the nectar in
relation to the various bee yards.
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kwh
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 5:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Disapearing bees mystery Reply with quote

On Apr 5, 10:19 pm, joe <j...@here.net> wrote:
Quote:
Mike Griggs wrote:
One would presume that solar activity, if it did disrupt bee flight and
dancing, would uniformly affect bees as the entire world is bathed in
this electromagnetic effect. Why are only some beekeepers being
affected?

mike

In article <13192i4nr64o...@corp.supernews.com>, joe <j...@here.net
wrote:

Al:
This may be one of the articles. Posted on Digg.
http://www.qj.net/Scientists-honeybee-killer-may-be-sunspots/pg/49/ai...

Scientists: honeybee killer may be sunspots
Posted Apr 01, 2007 at 06:27AM by Dia A. Listed in: Science Tags:
magnetic field, sunspots, pesticides

Not knowing if this is the true reason but an explanation could be the
magnetic fields at some locations or the locations of the nectar in
relation to the various bee yards.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

A very interesting theory. I don't know much about magnetic fields
and sun spots, but I wonder if the disturbances conincide with weather
patterns/cloud cover providing the hit-or-miss of it.
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Mike Griggs
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Disapearing bees mystery Reply with quote

With a regional (continent wide) effect one would presume the
electromagnetic disturbance would be of a large scale disruption.
Reports coming in do not reflect this!

It could have an effect on bees--coupled with other factors.
One reason the investigators did label this phenomenon a disorder is
because a disease indicates a biological organism.

I still think the sunspot theory is not supported by a widespread
effect as solar radiation /magnetism effects would cause!

Mike
Quote:

Not knowing if this is the true reason but an explanation could be the
magnetic fields at some locations or the locations of the nectar in
relation to the various bee yards.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

A very interesting theory. I don't know much about magnetic fields
and sun spots, but I wonder if the disturbances conincide with weather
patterns/cloud cover providing the hit-or-miss of it.
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