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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 1:23 am    Post subject: Re: Government-bought farms collapse Reply with quote

"Vendicar Decarian" <BushIsATraitor@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Jim Webster" <jim@websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> wrote
so they don't need food aid in Zimbabwe then? In fact they will doubtless
be resuming exports

Oh it's a situation of politically induced famine there No doubt about
it. The country has declined dramatically since the imposition of harsh
economic sanctions by Europe and the U.S.

perhaps you would explain in detail the 'harsh economic sanctions' that
stopped Zimbabwe being a major food exporter.

Quote:

There is no doubt about it though Mugabe has been a corrupt disaster much
like the corrupt Bush Disaster in YankVille. And the reasons are similar.
An ignorant public who are not smart enough to select a valid leader,
voting in a corrupt election and then being too cowardly to put a
premature end to the leadership through revolutionary direct action.


Vendicar Decarian wrote:
Where are those WMD that you morons claimed were in Iraq by the way?

"Jim Webster" <jim@websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> wrote
don't worry, we break our politicians when they lie to us, when are you
going to break yours?

I am not an AmeriKKKan and Bush is the enemy, not my president.

I note that Blair is still your leader. When do you pansies intend to
break him? When the fucktard is dying from old age? Gonna spank him
silly?

he'll be gone in a couple of months, when is Mugabe going?

Quote:

Bush should be executed, Blair should be imprisoned for life.

in the UK we try to give people a fair trial first. It is more expensive
than just having the police beat them up in the street but we feel that it
is probably money well spent

Jim Webster

Quote:

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 1:24 am    Post subject: Re: Government-bought farms collapse Reply with quote

"Vendicar Decarian" <BushIsATraitor@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Office of Foreign Assets Control
U.S. Department of the Treasury
What You Need To The U.S. Embargo ZIMBABWE

Executive Order - Blocking Property of Additional Persons Undermining
Democratic Processes or Institutions in Zimbabwe

What You Need To Know About U.S. Sanctions

INTRODUCTION - On March 7, 2003, as a result of actions and
policies by certain members of the government of Zimbabwe,
and its supporters to undermine democratic institutions

perhaps you would like to give annual grain production figures from the
years 1990 to 2004 so we can see what the sanctions did

Jim Webster
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 3:43 am    Post subject: Re: Government-bought farms collapse Reply with quote

"Jim Webster" <jim@websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> wrote
Quote:
perhaps you would explain in detail the 'harsh economic sanctions' that
stopped Zimbabwe being a major food exporter.

I posted them in the very next message. The U.S. contends that the people
holding the land was expropriated from the white land owners are
anti-democratic since they are aledged to be Mugabe sicophants. Economic
dealing with them is therefore a prohibited crime in AmeriKKKa. So too is
dealing with anyone who has dealt with them.

Hence No AmeriKKKan can trade with the new land owers in Zimbabwe, and no
person who wants to trade with AmeriKKKa can trade with the new land owners
in Zimbabwe without the threat of having their property stolen by the
AmeriKKKan government as penalty for that trade.

Europe has imposed some similar sanctions.

Vendicar Decarian wrote:
Quote:
I note that Blair is still your leader. When do you pansies intend to
break him? When the fucktard is dying from old age? Gonna spank him
silly?

"Jim Webster" <jim@websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> wrote
Quote:
he'll be gone in a couple of months, when is Mugabe going?

You didn't answer my question. When do you pansies intend to break Blair?
That was your claim - to break him? Is it your position now that simply
having him step down as leader of the party is somehow "breaking him." - The
fucker should be jailed for lying and his complicity in the commission of
war crimes.

As to Mugabe, he should never have been elected.

As I stated earlier.

There is no doubt about it though Mugabe has been a corrupt disaster much
like the corrupt Bush Disaster in YankVille. And the reasons are similar.
An ignorant public who are not smart enough to select a valid leader, voting
in a corrupt election and then being too cowardly to put a premature end to
the leadership through revolutionary direct action.



Quote:
Bush should be executed, Blair should be imprisoned for life.

"Jim Webster" <jim@websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> wrote
Quote:
in the UK we try to give people a fair trial first. It is more expensive
than just having the police beat them up in the street but we feel that it
is probably money well spent

The multiple lies from Bush and Blair are seemingly limitless. Trial is
unnecessary, as their guilt is obvious. Bush should be executed, and Blair
imprisoned for life.

But if you want a trial, by all means. Torture them into confession and
then sentence them.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 3:44 am    Post subject: Re: Government-bought farms collapse Reply with quote

"Jim Webster" <jim@websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> wrote
Quote:
perhaps you would like to give annual grain production figures from the
years 1990 to 2004 so we can see what the sanctions did

That would be your job wouldn't it?

Maybe you need to have me get you your Jammies and put you to bed as well.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:12 am    Post subject: New Dust Bowl Coming in the US, Poor People and Children to Reply with quote

New Dust Bowl Coming in the US, Poor People and Children to Suffer --
Satanist Sociopaths Cheer!!!

http://www.playfuls.com/news_006260_New_Dust_Bowl_Coming_in_the_US_Poor_People_and_Children_to_Suffer.html

With more than 50 square kilometers of polar ice cap melting every
single day, it's no wonder a new Dust Bowl is threatening the US. But
the accelerating greenhouse effect will hit children and poor people
most.

Global warming has been cited in numerous studies as the main cause
for the dramatic climate changes Earth is witnessing nowadays,
including the recent warm winter and the drought that affected
Australia.

Global warming is defined as the observed increase in the average
temperature of the Earth's near-surface air and oceans in recent
decades and its projected continuation. It is responsible for the
rapid melting of Earth's ice cap at the North Pole and for the
proliferation of fungi (among others), that leads to a faster
decomposition of leaves and dead tree-trunks.

A new study shows that global warming will also accelerate the
proportions of the drought that affects the Southwest of the US,
prompting for urgent measures to deal with the scanty water supplies
in the region.

"The bottom line message for the average person and also for the
states and federal government is that they'd better start planning for
a Southwest region in which the water resources are increasingly
stretched," said Richard Seager of Columbia University's Lamont
Doherty Earth Observatory.

Seager's study was published in this week's edition of Science. The
scientists in his team compared 19 computer models of the climate,
including data that went back to the first weather recordings, in
1860. The projection in the future showed that the continuous drying
of the Southwestern US and of some northern regions in Mexico-
observed in the late 20th century- will not stop and is likely to
continue at a faster pace.

The conclusions of Seager's study are in accordance with previous NASA
findings, which cautioned that global warming might increase droughts
across certain parts of the world, including the southwestern United
States.

NASA researchers compared historical records of the climate impact of
changes in the sun's output with model projections of how a warmer
climate driven by greenhouse gases would change rainfall patterns.
They found a warmer future climate likely will produce droughts in the
same areas as those observed during ancient times but potentially with
greater severity.

The reduction in rainfall could reach levels of the 1930s Dust Bowl
that ranged throughout the Midwestern United States, Seager said in a
telephone interview with AP.

Last winter, precipitation in the US was above average in the center,
while large sections of the East, Southeast and West were drier than
average. The global average temperature was the warmest on record for
the December-February period. According to the U.S. Drought Monitor,
25 percent of the continental U.S. was in moderate-to-exceptional
drought at the end of February. The most severe conditions were in
southwest Texas, northern Minnesota, Wyoming and the western High
Plains.

However, Seager cautioned that the dust storms reported in the '30 are
not likely to occur in our times, because back then poor agricultural
practices were involved too. But he added that the reduction in
rainfall could be equivalent to those times when thousands of farmers
abandoned their parched land and moved away in search of jobs.

Agriculture will still play a role in the 21st century Dust Bowl,
since most of the water in the Southwestern US is used for irrigation.
The problem gets bigger though when we consider the increasing urban
population that needs clean water resources.

"So, in a case where there is a reduced water supply, there will have
to be some reallocation between the users," Seager said. "The water
available is already fully allocated."

The scientist suggested that a solution would be a concerted effort to
reduce water consumption in agriculture (by withdrawing some land from
the agricultural circuit) and conserving water in urban areas.

"But it's something that needs to be planned for," Seager said. "It's
time to start thinking how to deal with that."

Jonathan T. Overpeck, director of the Institute for the Study of
Planet Earth at the University of Arizona, cited by CNN, said the
finding "agrees with what is already happening in the Southwest, and
will be further complicated by the already declining spring snowpack
due to warming."

"These are scary results, but scary in part because they are results
of well thought-out scientific work by a large number of strong
scientists," said Overpeck, who did not participate at the study.

The Chihuahua Desert straddling the U.S.-Mexican border is suffering
from drought and intensive farming and overgrazing. North America's
largest desert, the Chihuahua has 3,500 unique plant species,
including an array of cactus and yucca, that could be at risk.

In a previous study published in 1997 in Science magazine, Richard
Seager's team also showed that the eastern equatorial Pacific cooled
during the 20th century.

A new UN climate report released Friday in Brussels projects that one-
fifth of all animal and plant species are threatened with extinction
if warming continues at the current pace.

Another report, cited by Reuters, showed also that up to 175 million
children would be affected every year over the next decade by climate-
related disasters like droughts, floods and storms.

That is 50 million a year more than in the 10 years to 2005. Being
society's vulnerable members, children would be hurt
disproportionately, and millions more would be killed, forced from
their homes or hit by hunger and disease.

"The poorest of the poor in the world... are going to be the worst hit
and are the most vulnerable in terms of impact of climate change,"
said Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change chairman Rajendra
Pachauri.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:13 am    Post subject: New Dust Bowl Coming in the US, Poor People and Children to Reply with quote

New Dust Bowl Coming in the US, Poor People and Children to Suffer --
Satanist Sociopaths Cheer!!!

http://www.playfuls.com/news_006260_New_Dust_Bowl_Coming_in_the_US_Poor_People_and_Children_to_Suffer.html

With more than 50 square kilometers of polar ice cap melting every
single day, it's no wonder a new Dust Bowl is threatening the US. But
the accelerating greenhouse effect will hit children and poor people
most.

Global warming has been cited in numerous studies as the main cause
for the dramatic climate changes Earth is witnessing nowadays,
including the recent warm winter and the drought that affected
Australia.

Global warming is defined as the observed increase in the average
temperature of the Earth's near-surface air and oceans in recent
decades and its projected continuation. It is responsible for the
rapid melting of Earth's ice cap at the North Pole and for the
proliferation of fungi (among others), that leads to a faster
decomposition of leaves and dead tree-trunks.

A new study shows that global warming will also accelerate the
proportions of the drought that affects the Southwest of the US,
prompting for urgent measures to deal with the scanty water supplies
in the region.

"The bottom line message for the average person and also for the
states and federal government is that they'd better start planning for
a Southwest region in which the water resources are increasingly
stretched," said Richard Seager of Columbia University's Lamont
Doherty Earth Observatory.

Seager's study was published in this week's edition of Science. The
scientists in his team compared 19 computer models of the climate,
including data that went back to the first weather recordings, in
1860. The projection in the future showed that the continuous drying
of the Southwestern US and of some northern regions in Mexico-
observed in the late 20th century- will not stop and is likely to
continue at a faster pace.

The conclusions of Seager's study are in accordance with previous NASA
findings, which cautioned that global warming might increase droughts
across certain parts of the world, including the southwestern United
States.

NASA researchers compared historical records of the climate impact of
changes in the sun's output with model projections of how a warmer
climate driven by greenhouse gases would change rainfall patterns.
They found a warmer future climate likely will produce droughts in the
same areas as those observed during ancient times but potentially with
greater severity.

The reduction in rainfall could reach levels of the 1930s Dust Bowl
that ranged throughout the Midwestern United States, Seager said in a
telephone interview with AP.

Last winter, precipitation in the US was above average in the center,
while large sections of the East, Southeast and West were drier than
average. The global average temperature was the warmest on record for
the December-February period. According to the U.S. Drought Monitor,
25 percent of the continental U.S. was in moderate-to-exceptional
drought at the end of February. The most severe conditions were in
southwest Texas, northern Minnesota, Wyoming and the western High
Plains.

However, Seager cautioned that the dust storms reported in the '30 are
not likely to occur in our times, because back then poor agricultural
practices were involved too. But he added that the reduction in
rainfall could be equivalent to those times when thousands of farmers
abandoned their parched land and moved away in search of jobs.

Agriculture will still play a role in the 21st century Dust Bowl,
since most of the water in the Southwestern US is used for irrigation.
The problem gets bigger though when we consider the increasing urban
population that needs clean water resources.

"So, in a case where there is a reduced water supply, there will have
to be some reallocation between the users," Seager said. "The water
available is already fully allocated."

The scientist suggested that a solution would be a concerted effort to
reduce water consumption in agriculture (by withdrawing some land from
the agricultural circuit) and conserving water in urban areas.

"But it's something that needs to be planned for," Seager said. "It's
time to start thinking how to deal with that."

Jonathan T. Overpeck, director of the Institute for the Study of
Planet Earth at the University of Arizona, cited by CNN, said the
finding "agrees with what is already happening in the Southwest, and
will be further complicated by the already declining spring snowpack
due to warming."

"These are scary results, but scary in part because they are results
of well thought-out scientific work by a large number of strong
scientists," said Overpeck, who did not participate at the study.

The Chihuahua Desert straddling the U.S.-Mexican border is suffering
from drought and intensive farming and overgrazing. North America's
largest desert, the Chihuahua has 3,500 unique plant species,
including an array of cactus and yucca, that could be at risk.

In a previous study published in 1997 in Science magazine, Richard
Seager's team also showed that the eastern equatorial Pacific cooled
during the 20th century.

A new UN climate report released Friday in Brussels projects that one-
fifth of all animal and plant species are threatened with extinction
if warming continues at the current pace.

Another report, cited by Reuters, showed also that up to 175 million
children would be affected every year over the next decade by climate-
related disasters like droughts, floods and storms.

That is 50 million a year more than in the 10 years to 2005. Being
society's vulnerable members, children would be hurt
disproportionately, and millions more would be killed, forced from
their homes or hit by hunger and disease.

"The poorest of the poor in the world... are going to be the worst hit
and are the most vulnerable in terms of impact of climate change,"
said Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change chairman Rajendra
Pachauri.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:12 am    Post subject: Re: Government-bought farms collapse Reply with quote

"Vendicar Decarian" <BushIsATraitor@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Jim Webster" <jim@websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> wrote
perhaps you would explain in detail the 'harsh economic sanctions' that
stopped Zimbabwe being a major food exporter.


and totally failed to show any connection between them and the fall in grain
production
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:14 am    Post subject: Re: Government-bought farms collapse Reply with quote

"Vendicar Decarian" <BushIsATraitor@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Jim Webster" <jim@websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> wrote
perhaps you would like to give annual grain production figures from the
years 1990 to 2004 so we can see what the sanctions did

That would be your job wouldn't it?

Maybe you need to have me get you your Jammies and put you to bed as
well.


so actually you do not post them because they show that the fall in grain
production happened long before the 'sanctions' and you'd have to take
responsibility for yourselves rather than wailing and blaming someone else

Jim Webster
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:17 am    Post subject: Re: Government-bought farms collapse Reply with quote

"Jim Webster" <jim@websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> wrote
Quote:
and totally failed to show any connection between them and the fall in
grain production

It's rather obvious. Virtually all trade with the country is restricted as
a result of the U.S. embargo that punishes not only AmeriKKKans who trade,
but confiscates the property of any other person who happens to trade and
who's property is accessable to the U.S. government.

No trade = no investment = no funding of infrastructure, and no loans to
purchase machinery or supplies, and no markets in which to sell your goods.

It's quite obvious. As is the motivation behind your denial.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:34 am    Post subject: Re: Government-bought farms collapse Reply with quote

"Vendicar Decarian" <BushIsATraitor@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:

"Jim Webster" <jim@websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> wrote
and totally failed to show any connection between them and the fall in
grain production

It's rather obvious. Virtually all trade with the country is restricted
as a result of the U.S. embargo that punishes not only AmeriKKKans who
trade, but confiscates the property of any other person who happens to
trade and who's property is accessable to the U.S. government.

pity it happened before the sanctions really, otherwise you'd have been
saved the embarassment of having to think up excuses

Jim Webster
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 12:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Government-bought farms collapse Reply with quote

Vendicar Decarian <BushIsATraitor@hotmail.com> writes
Quote:

I happened to be talking to a young girl from Zimbabawe the other day -
she had been in the country for about a year - and asked her to give me her
opinion on the matter.

You mean she was zimbabwean, or had been in the countru 'for about a
year'?

Quote:
She was exceptionally eloquent, and well reasoned.
She started by giving me a review of the history of the issue, the problem
in a nutshell, the government solution, the results, and her opinion of the
final result.

Now that is very improbable. Real people just do not do that but ramble
somewhat around the subject. Of course if its a learned piece of
propaganda, that's just what they WILL say.

Quote:
Very impressive for a 17 year old I thought, and had to commend her
profusely for her intelligence and completeness, when in AmeriKKKan society,
the typical reply coming from the average 17 year old is an ignorant grunt,
or a "whah", or the statement "who cares".

This is probably pretty common in every country, but there are plenty of
smart young people in every country, so its not particularly notable.

Quote:
In any case, this 17 year old immigrant was more intelligent than the
combined intelligence displayed by 100 average AmeriKKKan adults.

Now you are being gratuitously rude to our american cousins.

Quote:
In a nutshell the problem was that White Land owners were using
essentially slave labour

Eh? Oh, well she either hasn't been to Zm or hasn't spoken to workers
there. The farm workers were well paid, well housed and well educated by
local standards. That why they were envied and why mugabe had to get rid
of them.

Quote:
to make profits on large farms

That is the general idea of any business, after all.

Quote:
and then exporting
those profits to Europe in the form of stock investments, residing in
private accounts.

Maybe. There are plenty who left withy nothing at all though.

Quote:
No local investments were made, and as a result the
general public of the region were not benefitting from their labour.

Que? They have all been expropriated by mugabe, so there were certainly
plenty.

Quote:
After many decades of this exploitation, a newly elected popular
government finally gave the land owners the ultimatum of investing their
profits in the country or having their property expropriated under the
accessment that they - the land owners - had already extracted enough wealth
from the nation. The land owners refused, and their land was expropriated.

Right .....
Only they had had no profits for several years, remember?

Quote:
The land was then partitioned to the local population.

No it was given to urban black people who were forcibly bussed out.
Of course they were not interested and drifted back to town.
The farm workers were declared to be mozambican and deported. Of course
with no papers the government could declare what they liked.

Quote:
However the local
population lacked the resources to bring production up to the same levels as
before.

They had all the plant and equipment, and I'm sure mugabe organised bank
loans (which is how the whites financed it) for the people. Otherwise
all he achieved was inevitable failure, as any fool could have
predicted.

Quote:
Also investment of foreign capital was pulled making it nearly
impossible to fund in the short term, farming projects. And access to
foreign markets were restricted.

Er, no. The only restrictions are on a few top govt officials. Mostly
funding is impossible and markets (for buying) is restricted is because
mugabe bankrupted the country and their credit is thus stuffed. Would
you lend to them?

Quote:
So the country went into a reasonably deep recesssion with the tacit
assistance of the west.

It went into catastropic recession because mugabe had taken over all the
means of production but couldn't be bothered to use it to produce.
Easier to sell it off and bank the proceeds in SA.

Quote:
Now to her opinion - which is the most interesting part.

Her opinion is that while the changes have been largely detrimental to the
overall population,

Totally bloody disasterous to the whole population except high govt
officials.

Quote:
she feels that the move was still a good one, or more
presicely a necessary one. She laments the strife that it has caused, and
believes that it could have been better organzied. But even managed as it
has been, she favours the move. Although only moderately so.

OK, so as a smart girl she thinks destroying the countries economy,
reducing irs population to destitution and forcing all the educated
blacks (of which there are many) and whites to emigrate was a good move.

I guess that's why she stayed behind?

Quote:
I asked if the situation was the same would she like to see it done again
with the resulting consequences.

Her answer was Yes...

Well, as a piece of propaganda your argument is a tad weak.
You support the destruction of one or the richest countries in africa.


--
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 1:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Government-bought farms collapse Reply with quote

Vendicar Decarian <BushIsATraitor@hotmail.com> writes

Quote:
What she witnessed, she witnessed first hand. I would say her take on
reality is much more tuned to reality than yours apparently.

Hmmm, lets see....

I employed (in the UK, as a farmstudent) a black zimbabwean, he
disagreed with you.

There is a white ex-zimbabwean who left about 10 years ago in my
village. He has many friends both black and white in, or recently in,
zimbabwe, he disagrees with you.

I recently returned from south africa, where an astonishing number of
waiters and other hotel staff seemed to be either zimbabwean or had
family in zimbabwe (both black and white) and they most certainly would
violently disagree with you.

The UK press and reporters who report on zimbabwe would definitely
disagree with you.

The economist reports would definitely disagree with you.

So, I guess your attempt at some propaganda may not be that effective, I
hope you were well paid.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 1:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Government-bought farms collapse Reply with quote

Vendicar Decarian <BushIsATraitor@hotmail.com> writes
Quote:
Hence No AmeriKKKan can trade with the new land owers in Zimbabwe, and no
person who wants to trade with AmeriKKKa can trade with the new land owners
in Zimbabwe without the threat of having their property stolen by the
AmeriKKKan government as penalty for that trade.

Europe has imposed some similar sanctions.

1) Incorrect.
2) Trade was almost entirely with adjacent countries (in africa),
particularly SA, who have no such sanctions.

So you are this talking out of your arse.

NB I note you now speak for yourself and have given up the charade of
'this girl told me'.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 1:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Government-bought farms collapse Reply with quote

"Oz" <Oz@farmeroz.port995.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Vendicar Decarian <BushIsATraitor@hotmail.com> writes
Hence No AmeriKKKan can trade with the new land owers in Zimbabwe, and no
person who wants to trade with AmeriKKKa can trade with the new land
owners
in Zimbabwe without the threat of having their property stolen by the
AmeriKKKan government as penalty for that trade.

Europe has imposed some similar sanctions.

1) Incorrect.
2) Trade was almost entirely with adjacent countries (in africa),
particularly SA, who have no such sanctions.

So you are this talking out of your arse.

NB I note you now speak for yourself and have given up the charade of
'this girl told me'.


It is interesting to see the effect of sanctions on the area of grain grown

Commercial maize planting
1999-2000: 150,000ha
2000-2001: 68,000ha
2001-2002: 40,000ha
Source: FEWS.net

according to our learned friend here, sanctions were introduced March 7,
2003
So looks like agriculture had been a howling success up until then

Jim Webster
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I employed (in the UK, as a farmstudent) a black zimbabwean, he
disagreed with you.



The UK seems to have benifited from skilled people leaving both Zimbabwe
and SA.
When I was at University several af the other students had had a year or so
working for Philips in SA and it
would appear that there was a significant flow of skilled people both
gaining and giving experience to the Southern African economy.
These should be the people, now moved into middle and upper management that
should be building benificial economic ties
between here and there. I don't see a lot of hope at the moment.
I know several ex-South Africans who moved to the UK after the majority rule
and have since finished their working lives and retired.These skills are no
longer available to return to SA.

Zimbabwe is a good example of how racism destroys an economy when the skills
are not restricted to a single group.
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